tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8808867654766823029.post6214914387101397674..comments2016-07-26T23:51:45.806-04:00Comments on Small Press Reviews: Cider Press ReviewUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8808867654766823029.post-67668766336555893922008-08-30T21:43:00.000-04:002008-08-30T21:43:00.000-04:00There you have it, folks. Both sides of the story....There you have it, folks. Both sides of the story.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04020090512938362304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8808867654766823029.post-81179476750538887452008-08-30T19:35:00.000-04:002008-08-30T19:35:00.000-04:00Hi, Marc.I very much appreciate you posting the re...Hi, Marc.<BR/><BR/>I very much appreciate you posting the response by Cider Press, as their side in this story deserves to be represented. That's why I posted it on my blog.<BR/><BR/>But I wanted to clarify something here. As I wrote on my blog, I did indeed go to a lawyer first and undertake legal action. I was forced to because the press broke a legally binding contract and then tried to maintain that they were still entitled to the rights that would have been afforded to them by that contract.<BR/><BR/>So I had to hire a lawyer, who had to explain to them that when you break a contract, the contract is void, and you're no longer entitled to what that contract was supposed to give you.<BR/><BR/>It was a very regrettable situation, and one that could have easily been avoided. If they wanted to break the contract, they should have freely given me back the rights to my work. They did not own them, nor were they entitled to them. And their attempts to withhold them further amplified the "ethically questionable" behavior of breaking a contract without legal reason.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.<BR/>Stacey Lynn Brownstacebrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08132621567274427152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8808867654766823029.post-5517817063289730822008-08-30T19:28:00.000-04:002008-08-30T19:28:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.stacebrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08132621567274427152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8808867654766823029.post-67247264546422292082008-08-27T08:04:00.000-04:002008-08-27T08:04:00.000-04:00For the sake of fairness, I contacted the publishe...For the sake of fairness, I contacted the publishers at Cider Press, and they offered the following explanation, which identifies a poet named Stacey as the individual who has taken "legal action" against the press:<BR/><BR/>We gave Stacey every single thing she asked for except a photo on the back cover (and we had originally offered that, but she refused to allow us to consider editing the blurbs so it would fit). We spent countless hours and more than $200 of extra money (including purchasing a special font and securing specific cover art) to make the book look exactly the way she wanted. There were certainly misunderstandings along the way, but each one was dealt with as it arose and the only thing we were aware that she was dissatisfied with was the placement of her photograph. In the end, she refused to allow us to publish the book unless we put her picture on the back - when we, instead, wanted to put it inside the back of the book where we deemed it would look better, particularly given the lengthy blurbs on the back.<BR/> <BR/>During the process, Stacey became demanding about every aspect of the book's design, until she became unreasonable and even abusive. At that time we decided to revoke the book award. Since then, she has undertaken a campaign to 'get us back' in whatever way she thinks she can. First she went to a lawyer to assure that she would not have to return the prize money to retain the rights to her book, and we conceded that in an effort to put an end to this unfortunate situation. But she was still apparently unsatisfied, and so she agitated a writer at Poets & Writers (to whom we are providing detailed accounts of precisely what occurred, which may be used in a comprehensive story regarding the matter), and wrote her one-sided blog entry.<BR/> <BR/>Based on her blog entry, she seems to have confused proofreading with editing, since we don't commonly "edit" prize-winning manuscripts but always work with the author to proofread the text for formatting issues only an author could recognize. And she certainly has preconceived notions as to the role of author vs. press, which we can certainly do nothing at this point to rectify. We continue to do what we do because we care about poetry, and want to put out a quality product based on our years of experience as a small press. We have had many good experiences with authors, and very few bad ones. We look forward to more good experiences, and more wonderful poetry, in the future.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04020090512938362304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8808867654766823029.post-76574629277920114232008-08-26T17:08:00.000-04:002008-08-26T17:08:00.000-04:00Yes, CPR has a terrible reputation. Given the disa...Yes, CPR has a terrible reputation. Given the disastrous results of the last two book competitions, I think many poets will be staying away from this press.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8808867654766823029.post-56321464800652140402008-08-25T16:09:00.000-04:002008-08-25T16:09:00.000-04:00I agree with the previous post. I think it's abou...I agree with the previous post. I think it's about time that this press be exposed as the shady business it truly is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8808867654766823029.post-28196103153737322342008-08-24T11:14:00.000-04:002008-08-24T11:14:00.000-04:00Perhaps the journal itself looks nice, but this pr...Perhaps the journal itself looks nice, but this press has a track record of unethical dealings with the winners of its book award. The two previous winners both had to enter into legal action against the press, which speaks volumes about it, I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com